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Anyone up to share the weight of common components? I was cleaning up the shop so there's a few I have.
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Ford 10.5" rear axle out of an 04 Superduty, disk brake version, complete except one caliper, swaybar cut off, so it's probably 440lbs.
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Ford HPD60 front axle, 04 Superduty, it was all there and full of oil, swaybar not attached but some small bits from the suspension still on it. Probably right about 540lbs.
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Ford HPD60, 94 F-350, complete but the locking hubs removed (forgot to put that on the note), so right around 500lbs.
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GM 14 Bolt FF regular single wheel, year is unknown but it was an early 80s squarebody, complete from drum to drum, had the shock bodies still on it because I just cut them off when removing it. Around 415lbs.

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More random things I weighed.

Ford HP D60 center section only, from a 94-03 axle. I would say it's about 60lbs even, this one still has some stubs of tube in it and the pinion bearing races and outer bearing.
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I should hack a D44 one off and compare it, but I didn't think to do so at the time. I have a wasted LP housing that would be a good candidate for that. :laughing:

Next up was a 77 F-150 HP D44. First was the housing with gears/carrier, knuckles, steering, radius arm wedges, and the track bar. Which came in at 225lbs.
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Then was the crap that makes up the rest of the outer assembly, hubs, spindles, calipers/mounts, wheel bearings, drive flanges, etc. I can't say it's 100% all there, but it's close, there's definitely a few small bits missing and I'd add a pound for that. This crap is 120lbs.
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Add that to the first part and you're at 345lbs. Missing is the axleshafts, they should be about 30lbs. Anyone who is actually using this likely wouldn't care for the Ford track bar either, so you could deduct about 15lbs for that.

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Mercedes OM617 diesel as pulled, wet and dressed. So there's coolant and oil in it, stock flywheel and MB adapter, all accessories from the turbo right to the cruise control servo. I'd call it 600lbs even. For reference stripped and dry they are 475lbs.
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here is my <$40 spring scale in action

294 lbs for a FJ60 front axle, IFS hubs with 3 link brackets and high steer arms with panhard and tie rod
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I got 512 lbs for my 5.3L, 2005, no A/C and with cheap chinese exhaust manifolds
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161 lbs for 16.5" TWF Pressed center wheels with PVC insert and standard rock ring plus 37" PitBull Rocker Radial

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachm ... g_1480.jpg

things i weighed but didn't take pictures of:

482 lbs for FJ60/tacoma hybrid rear axle with 4 link brakets, truss, cheap ~31" roller tires on AL wheels plus half the lower links

381 lbs for TH350 to NP 203 range box to D300 including small diameter TQ Converter

673 lbs for this chassis, including suspension links, based on 1-3/4" tube
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i use bend tech to measure and weight stuff, if anybody else isn't in a hurry, let me know and i'll draw up whatever you've got to get a reasonable estimate on a jungle gym :cheers:
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For comparison sake:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020 ... ns-torque/

2020 Corvette C8: 495 hp / 3,366 lb curb weight = 0.14705 hp/lb factory

If we go on a diet of 200 lbs we get: 495/3166 = 0.15634 hp/lb

if we stay the same weight but add HP, we'd need 3,366*0.15634 = 526 hp for the same hp/lb

what if we did both? 526/3166=0.166140 hp/lbs. that would be similar to taking factory weight and making it 560 hp, but much easier

weight reduction helps everywhere, in terms of braking and cornering that don't get measure by raw HP.

unsprung weight is even more significant for suspension performance than sprung weight, here is a brief article talking about why

https://blog.fcpeuro.com/reducing-unspr ... erformance


those are all for race stuff and people who care about pushing the limits on braking, cornering and acceleration (because that is how you win races). Being mindful of weights is still important for the everyman though and even the trail rig. Weight distribution plays a huge roll in stability. the farther from the roll centers and roll axis the weight is, the longer the moment lever arm is and the greater the influence on stability that weight will have. this is why things like water in the tires are good for a comp crawler, but bad for everybody else. the weight is added directly to the contact patch so it doesn't need to be transferred through the suspension. it is also very low, so it takes a good bit before it can flop over. Go ahead and roll over down a side hill with 4 tires full of water if you really want to experience some violence in action though! :flipoff:
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Here's a list stolen from Pirate, since they are scheduled to go kaput tomorrow. The accuracy of all items on this list is open to interpretation, and there's not a lot of info on the specifics of these items as to if they're dressed or not (aside from the tires obviously).

Front axle


Zuk = 165
Toyota = 220
Dana 30 tj = 230
Spider 9 = 325
Diamond toy = 350
Camo’s 60 =355
Dana 44 60wms = 386

609 = 400-450 depending on wall size and inner c’s
Dana 44 full width = 450
Dana 60 ford = 485
Dana 60 chevy = 525
Volvo = 600
Mog 404 =600
Mog 406 = 650
Rockwell w/o drums and narrowed = 662
Rockwell w/o drums = 682
U1300 = 710
rockwell w/ drums = 842lbs

toy housing = 50
Diamond 609 w/ .25 wall chromo and stock 60 inner C's = 68
Diamond 609 w/ .375 wall dom with Dedenbear inners = 100
dana 60 housing = 160


Rear axle

Zuk = 130
Toyota = 150
Dana 44 tj = 150
Camo’s 60 =225
Ford 9 =225
Dana 44 fw = 250
Dana 60 =300
Corp 14sf 3/4 ton version w/ disc = 375
Corp 14sf 3/4 ton w/ drums = 420
Corp 14ff w/disc = 475
Dana 70hd =480
Dana 80 = 505
Rockwell w/o drums = 532
Corp 14ff = 550
Mog 404 = 550
Mog 406 = 620
rockwell stock = 692


Motor

amc v8 = 600
amc s6 = 500

buick 3.8 w/supercharger = 440

cady 500 = 500

Newstar = 300
ecotec = 310
Shorstar = 325
northstar v8 = 413
Ls1 = 425
lq9(6.0) = 470
chevy 4.3 - 425
Chevy 350 = 500-575
chevy 454 = 675

ford 3.8 = 300
Ford 5.0 - 450 lbs
ford 351 = 525
ford 460 = 720

dodge 360 = 550
dodge 400 = 620
dodge 440 = 670
dodge 426 hemi = 726

Jeep 4.0 long block with manifolds = 415
Jeep 2.4 long block with manifods = 340

Olds 455 = 605

Subaru 2.2 =270

saturn 1.9 single cam motor and transaxle 330 lbs

Toyota 20R = 315
Toyota 22r = 291
Toyota 3.0L - 360
Toyota 3.4 v6 = 550

vw flat four = 200

tracker/sidekick 1.6 = 250



Trans

Toyota 5 speed = 107
Powerglide = 100
TH400: = 135
TH700: = 155
TH350: = 120
4L60E = 180
904 = 106
C6 = 175
t-90 = 75
Ford NP435 w/ AMC Bellhousing =150lb


Transfer case

Toyota = 80
Dual Toyota = 120
Toyota doubler only = 40

NP203 Range box = 87
NP205 = 135
NP208 = 75
NP241 = 115
Dana 300 = 85
Dana 18 = 77
Atlas 2 = 100
Atlas 4spd 10.1 = 125
sammy = 55
Stak 3spd = 156



Tires


48" goodyear military tire 225lbs
53" goodyear military tire 300lbs

37in krawler = 81

35/16 bogger = 85
37/13 bogger = 84
39.5/18 bogger = 113
44/18 bogger = 141
54/19.5 bogger = 189

35/15.5 sx = 85
36/12.5 sx = 72
38.5/14 sx = 89
42/15 sx = 116

35/12.5 trxes = 66
37/12.5 trxes = 72

36/13 irok = 66
39/13 irok = 76
42/14 irok = 95
49//21 irok = 169

34/10.5 ltb = 58
35/12 lyb = 67
40/16 ltb = 101
47/17 ltb = 166

35.5/9.5 (q78) tsl = 66
35/15 tsl = 82
36/12.5 tsl = 65
38/12.5 tsl = 72
38.5/16 tsl = 90
39.5/15 tsl = 97
42/15 tsl = 107
44/18.5 tsl = 121

37/12.5 mtr = 82
40/13 mtr = 93


Wheels

15x10 allied beadlock = 35.
20"x12" double beadlock = 69
Hummer rim w/pvc = 42
14x15 steel = 40
16x8 cast aluminum rims = 21
Walker Evans 17'' wheel = 45
Robbie Gordon 17'' wheel = 43

more tires

LT
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------LT265/70R16--------66 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------LT265/70R17--------61 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------LT285/75R16--------73 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------LT305/70R16--------81 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------LT255/85R16--------53 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------LT255/85R16--------54 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------LT255/85R16--------54 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------LT235/85R16--------51 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------LT255/85R16--------53 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------LT265/75R16--------54 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------LT285/75R16--------61 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------LT215/85R15--------35 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------LT225/85R14--------36 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------LT265/80R16--------59 lbs

24's
Super Swamper LTB----------------24X140.50-15LT--------58 lbs

27's
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------27X9.50R14LT--------37 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------27X9.50R15LT--------39 lbs

28's
Super Swamper TSL--------28X8.50-14LT--------31 lbs

29's
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------29X10.50R15--------42 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------29X11.50R15LT--------54 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------29X10.50-15LT--------46 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------29X10.50-15LT--------46 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------29X8.50-15LT--------33 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------29X10.50-15LT--------40 lbs

30's
Super Swamper Thornbird--------30X11.50-15LT--------53 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------30X11.50-15LT--------53 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------30X11.50-16LT--------50 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------30X10.50R15LT--------49 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------30X11.50-15LT--------44 lbs

31's
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------31x11.50R15--------50 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------31x11.50R16--------50 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw--------31x10.50R15--------42 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial MTX--------31x10.50R15--------40 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial MTX--------31x11.50R15--------45 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------31X12.50-15LT--------57 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------31X12.50-16LT--------55 lbs
Super Swamper LTB--------31X11.50-15LT--------49 lbs
Super Swamper LTB--------31X11.50-16LT--------49 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------31X10.50R15LT--------57 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------31X12.50R15LT--------63 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------31X12.50R16LT--------71 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------31X11.50R15--------52 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------31X11.00-15LT--------58 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------31X11.00-16LT--------56 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------31X12.50-15LT--------60 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------31X12.50-15LT--------61 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------31X10.50R15LT--------47 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------31X10-50-15LT--------48 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------31X9.50R15LT--------46 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------31X13.50-15LT--------58 lbs
Yokohama Geolander AT II--------31x10.50R15--------45.50 lbs
Yokohama Geolander MT--------31x10.50R15--------42.92 lbs

32's
Mickey Thompson Radial MTX--------32x11.50R15--------45 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------32X11.50R15LT--------62 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------32X11.50R16LT--------69 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------32X11.50R17LT--------62 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------32X9.50-15LT--------50 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------9/32-16LT--------52 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------9/32-16LT--------55 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------32X10.50R15LT--------52 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------32X11.50-15LT--------96 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------32X11.50-16LT--------58 lbs
Yokohama Geolander AT II--------32x11.50R15--------49.10 lbs

33's
BF Goodrich M/T--------33x10.50R15--------48.69 lbs
BF Goodrich M/T--------33x12.50R15--------53.93 lbs
BF Goodrich M/T--------33x12.50R16.5--------56.45 lbs
Goodyear MT/R--------33x12.50R15--------57.20 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------33x13.50R15--------58 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------33x13.50R16--------58 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw--------33x12.50R15--------54 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw--------33x12.50R17--------56 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial MTX--------33x12.50R15--------52 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial MTX--------33x12.50R17--------54 lbs
Nitto Mud Grapplers--------33x13.50x15--------72lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X10.50-15LT--------58 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X10.50-16LT--------57 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X12.50-15LT--------65 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X12.50-16.5LT--------67 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X12.50-16LT--------64 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X14.00-15LT--------61 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X14.00-16.5LT--------62 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------33X14.00-16LT--------62 lbs
Super Swamper LTB--------33X13.50-15LT--------62 lbs
Super Swamper LTB--------33X13.50-16LT--------61 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------33X12.50R15LT--------67 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------33X12.50R16.5LT--------77 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------33X12.50R16LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------33X14.50R15LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------33X14.50R16.5LT--------87 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------33X14.50R16LT--------86 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------33X13.50-15--------55 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------33X13.50-16--------57 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------33X12.50R15--------58 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------33X12.50R16--------66 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------33X14.50R15--------73 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X10.50-15LT--------48 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X10.50-15LT--------52 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X11.50-15LT--------59 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X11.50-16.5--------61 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X11.50-16LT--------60 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X12.50-15LT--------68 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X12.50-15LT--------68 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------33X12.50-16.5--------68 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------33X12.50R15LT--------58 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------33X12.50R16.5LT--------67 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------33X12.50R16LT--------67 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------33X12.50R17LT--------71 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------33X12.50-15LT--------60 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------33X12.50-16.5LT--------61 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------13/33-16LT--------62 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------33X10.50R15LT--------55 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------33X12.50R15LT--------56 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------33X12.50R16.5LT--------64 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------33X15.50-15LT--------71 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------33X15.50-16.5LT--------66 lbs

34's
Super Swamper LTB----------------34X10.50-16LT--------59 lbs
Super Swamper LTB----------------34X10.50-17LT--------58 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------34X12.50R15LT--------64 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------34X12.50R16LT--------73 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------34X9.50-15LT--------54 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------34X9.50-16.5LT--------54 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------9/34-16LT--------56 lbs

35's
BF Goodrich M/T--------35x12.50R15--------58.08 lbs
BF Goodrich M/T--------35x12.50R16.5--------59.05 lbs
BF Goodrich M/T--------35x12.50R17--------66.11 lbs
Goodyear MT/R--------35x12.50R15--------61.50 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------35x13.50R15--------60 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------35x15.50R15--------73 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------35x13.50R16--------60 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw--------35x12.50R15--------64 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw--------35x12.50R17--------64 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial MTX--------35x12.50R15--------62 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------35X10.50-15LT--------64 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------35X10.50-16LT--------66 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------16/35-15LT--------85 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------16/35-16.5LT--------85 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------16/35-16.5LT--------88 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------16/35-16LT--------83 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------35X14.50-15LT--------74 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------35X14.50-16.5LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------35X14.50-16LT--------75 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------35X10.50R15LT--------70 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------35X10.50R16LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------35X12.50R15LT--------75 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------35X12.50R16.5LT--------86 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------35X12.50R16LT--------87 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------35X14.50R15LT--------83 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------35X14.50R16.5LT--------93 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------35X12.50R15--------68 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------35X12.50R16--------78 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------35X12.50R17--------76 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------35X12.50-15LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------35X12.50-15LT--------77 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------35X12.50-16.5--------78 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------35X12.50-16LT--------79 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------35X14.50-15LT--------89 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------35X14.50-15LT--------90 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------35X14.50-16.5--------84 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------35X12.50R15LT--------66 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------35X12.50R16.5LT--------67 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------35X12.50R16LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper TRXUS/Radial--------35X12.50R17LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/35-15LT--------82 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/35-16.5LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/35-16.5LT--------86 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------35X15.50-15LT--------85 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------35X15.50-16.5LT--------76 lbs

Q78's
Super Swamper TSL--------Q78-15LT--------65 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------Q78-16LT--------66 lbs

36's
Super Swamper IROK--------36X13.50-15--------66 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------36X13.50-16--------65 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------36X13.50-16.5--------67 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------36X13.50-17--------66 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------36X13.50-20-68 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------36X14.50R15--------82 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------36X14.50R16--------93 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------36X14.50R16.5--------92 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------36X12.50-15LT--------65 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------36X12.50-16.5LT--------66 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------36x12.50-16LT--------79 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------13/36-16LT--------68 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------36X12.50R15LT--------67 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------36X12.50R16LT--------76 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------36X14.50R15LT--------79 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------36X14.50R16.5LT--------92 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------36X14.50R16LT--------93 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------36X12.50-15LT--------78 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------36X12.50-16.5LT--------74 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------36X12.50-16.5LT--------80 lbs

37's
BF Goodrich Krawler T/A--------37/12.50R17--------81.50 lbs
BF Goodrich M/T--------37x12.50R17--------69.72 lbs
Goodyear MT/R--------37x12.50R15--------74.20 lbs
Maxxis Trepadors--------37X13.50R17LT--------85 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------37x13.50R15--------80 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------37x13.50R16--------81 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------37x13.50R16.5--------77 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw--------37x13.50R15--------87 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw--------37x13.50R17--------85 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------37X13.00-15LT--------84 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------37X13.00-16.5--------82 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------37X13.00-16.5LT--------84 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------37X13.00-16LT--------83 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------37X13.00-17LT--------84 lbs
Super Swamper IROK/Radial--------37X12.50R15--------77 lbs
Super Swamper IROK/Radial--------37X12.50R16--------89 lbs
Super Swamper IROK/Radial--------37X12.50R16.5--------89 lbs
Super Swamper IROK/Radial--------37X12.50R17--------90 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------37X12.50R15LT--------78 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------37X12.50R16.5LT--------89 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------37X12.50R16LT--------90 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------37X12.50R17LT--------90 lbs

38's
Super Swamper Bogger--------38.5/11.00-15LT--------71 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------38.5X11.00-16.5LT--------70 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------38.5X11.00-16LT--------69 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------38X15.50R15LT--------95 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------38X15.50R16.5LT--------104 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------38X15.50R16LT--------105 lbs
Super Swamper SSR/Radial--------38X15.50R17LT--------104 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------38X15.50R15--------90 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------38X15.50R16--------101 lbs
Super Swamper STS/Radial--------38X15.50R16.5--------101 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------38.5X14.50-15LT--------98 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------38.5X14.50-15LT--------99 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------38.5X14.50-16--------97 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------38.5X14.50-16--------98 lbs
Super Swamper Thornbird--------38.5X14.50-16.5--------101 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------38X12.50-15LT--------72 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------38X12.50-16.5LT--------73 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------13/38-16LT--------73 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------38X15.50R15LT--------90 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/Radial--------38X15.50R16.5LT--------99 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------38.5X14.50-15LT--------89 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------38.5X14.50-16.5LT--------84 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------38X12.50-15LT--------84 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------38X12.50-16.5LT--------83 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX--------38X12.50-16.5LT--------85 lbs

38.5's
Super Swamper Bogger--------15/38.5-15LT--------88 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------15/38.5-16.5LT--------86 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------15/38.5-16LT--------89 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------16/38.5-15LT--------90 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------16/38.5-16.5LT--------89 lbs

39's
BF Goodrich Krawler T/A--------39/13.50R17--------90 lbs

39.5's
Super Swamper Bogger--------18/39.5-15LT--------113 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------18/39.5-16.5LT--------116 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------39.5X13.50-15--------76 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------39.5X13.50-16--------85 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------39.5X13.50-16.5--------85 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------39.5X13.50-17--------84 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------39.5X13.50-20--------74 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------15/39.5-15--------92 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------15/39.5-16--------101 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------15/39.5-16.5--------100 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------15/39.5-17--------96 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------15/39.5-20--------91 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------15/39.5-20--------96 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/39.5-15LT--------97 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/39.5-16.5LT--------92 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/39.5-16.5LT--------95 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/39.5-17LT--------95 lbs

40's
Maxxis Creepy Crawlers--------40x13.5R17--------105 lbs

42's
Super Swamper TSL--------15/42-15LT--------107 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------15/42-16.5LT--------105 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------14/42-16.5--------97 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------14/42-17--------97 lbs

44's
Super Swamper Bogger--------19.5/44-15LT--------141 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger--------19.5/44-16.5LT--------145 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------21/44-15--------139 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------21/44-16--------152 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------21/44-16.5--------149 lbs
Super Swamper STS--------21/44-17--------134 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------18.5/44-15LT--------121 lbs
Super Swamper TSL--------18.5/44-16.5LT--------120 lbs

46's
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------19.5/46-15LT--------6 ply--------138 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------19.5/46-16LT--------6 ply--------137 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------19.5/46-16.5LT--------6 ply--------138 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw--------19.5/46-20LT -------- 6 ply--------149 lbs

47's
Super Swamper LTB--------17/47-16.5--------163 lbs

49's
Super Swamper IROK--------21/49-16.5--------169 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------21/49-17--------169 lbs
Super Swamper IROK--------21/49-20--------168 lbs

54's
Super Swamper Bogger--------19.5/54-20--------189 lbs

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some good info there. I thought pirate was done ages ago. shows how often I go on there anymore, most of the usable tech is gone or buried.

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https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota- ... btotm.html

39.5"x16.5"x15" pitbull rocker tires mounted on some cheap steal wheels with no beadlocks or rings measure ~37.5" tall off the truck and weigh 121 lbs

37"x12.5"x16.5" goodyear surplus tires on HMMWV wheels with no rock rings but with PVC inserts measure ~35.5" tall (probably 1/3-1/4 tread) and weigh 134 lbs

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43" SX sticky - 122 lbs
17" Raceline Monster w/ Aluminum rings - 44 lbs

the white shadow - My old setup was 44" comp boggers on H1s (recentered,1/4" rings, mag inserts. They were about 225 lbs per corner. Taking that weight off was instant horsepower.

DWT - 42" tsl's on 15x10 DIY beadlocks were 150 something a corner. 44" tsl's on the same wheels were 168 a corner. 38" sx's on a 15x10 with Bobby's DIY beadlocks were 138 a corner.

generallee7 - I wanna say my 40" DOT Nitto Trail Grapplers are 105lbs each and 17" TR HD beadlocks are 32lbs each so close to 140lbs per setup. Looking to go to 39" Krawlers next to drop more weight. It was a noticeable difference going from the 39" KR's I had before to the Nittos.

Sherm$ - 36 13.50 16 iroks on trail ready hd beadlocks 91.6
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Scott where did you get that scale I could use one

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HMF wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:44 pm Scott where did you get that scale I could use one
im pretty sure you can get that one off amazon

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HMF wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:44 pm Scott where did you get that scale I could use one
Amazon, like Timber said. Ebay has tons too normally.

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here was my DIY spring scale. bought a 14" 100 lb coil spring. Cheap springs work just fine, free springs are even better. All it needs is some sort of housing, some sort of rod and a couple of plates.

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you can use whatever weight spring you want to use, but 100 lbs/inch makes the math really easy. If you need more weight range or more accuracy, get a different spring. 1/16" is as accurate as my tape measure and +/- 6lbs is about as accurate as any of the super cheap ebay units
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measure from the base to the reference line, convert inches on stick to lbs of thing
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Just bought one of those amazon special scales and looking forward to playing with it this weekend in the shop. Finally see how much weight my that my toy diffs have accumulated.

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Im gonna say close to double hahaha

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